Provo Mayor John Curtis finds places where he can support Donald Trump by focusing on the president’s agenda and ignoring his “distractions,” he said during an online debate Tuesday in the special election to fill Utah’s vacant congressional seat.
“I think Utah wants the Trump agenda: tax reform, a strong economy, a strong national defense, great Supreme Court nominations,” said the Republican candidate and front-runner in the race.
His competitors bristled at the suggestion.
“I find that to be somewhat of a disturbing answer from John Curtis,” rebutted the new United Utah Party’s Jim Bennett.
“I also disagree that most Utahns favor the Trump agenda,” added Democrat Kathie Allen.
During the sometimes feisty 54-minute debate hosted by KSL Radio, the top three contenders bidding for former Rep. Jason Chaffetz’s seat responded to seven questions that bounced from health care to public lands to education. Their answers about the president’s leadership during his first nine months in office highlighted the biggest tensions and ideological differences among them.
Bennett, a moderate third-party contender, vocally and assertively poked at Curtis for his stance throughout the forum.
He criticized the mayor for his “complete silence” on gun control after the mass shooting in Las Vegas (though Curtis did come out against bump stocks that convert semi-automatic rifles into essentially machine guns). He picked at his solutions for health-care reform, suggesting they would not be feasible during emergencies. And he called Curtis out for running two campaign ads on Facebook — one exhorting Congress to “build the wall” and the other calling to “stop sanctuary cities” — that were later taken down.
“I regret with all my heart the Facebook post,” Curtis responded. “It was put up by a third-party vendor, and I also will agree that the response was less than perfect as well. … Instead of actually causing a meaningful dialogue about immigration, it actually just increased the level of divisiveness, and I found myself a victim of being attacked with divisiveness as well.”
Curtis told The Salt Lake Tribune editorial board later on Tuesday that he “really blew it” with the ads. The mayor said if it’s the best solution for border security that he would support a wall between the United States and Mexico — Trump’s oft-touted answer to illegal immigration — but the idea “carries all of this pent-up racism.”
His views on immigration, Curtis added, are more sympathetic than that.
Bennett was quick to counter.
“You can regret the post. You can regret the response. But what’s difficult is figuring out where you stand,” he said. “Do you support a wall or do you not support a wall? When you get to the House of Representatives, you don’t get a multiple choice option. You have to vote yea or nay.”
Curtis is “a man of integrity,” Bennett added, caught trying to balance his ethics with the agenda of Trump, who has “so many serious character flaws.” Allen, too, said the president’s tweets and provocations of North Korea “don’t reflect a mature leader.”
The mayor later joked that his wife only had to plug her ears three times during the debate — which he considered an improvement after a bruising Republican primary where he was attacked for not aligning far enough to the right.
“For three months I was a flaming liberal and now I’m too conservative. It’s kind of funny,” he said. The mayor did not vote for Trump in the 2016 president election and instead wrote in a “good friend’s name.”
“I think the problem is that if you’re willing to throw anything you want into the Trump agenda then you can find fault with it.”
Curtis has polled strongly in the race, nearly 38 percentage points ahead of Allen and more than 48 ahead of Bennett, in the deeply red 3rd Congressional District.
Bennett and Curtis aligned on public lands, welcoming a scaled-back version of Bears Ears National Monument. Allen said that would be “a slap in the face” to the tribes who wanted that area protected by federal decree.
She called for universal health care while they talked about market forces.
And the three agreed that they would try to improve the dysfunction in Washington and work across party lines if elected to Congress (though Bennett said he’s in “a unique position to rise above the fray” as a third-party candidate).
There are at least two more debates before the Nov. 7 election. One is set for Friday at Sandy’s Eastmont Middle School at 6:30 p.m. The other will be Oct. 18 starting at 6 p.m. at Brigham Young University’s KBYU Studios.